Non-trombone music that we like

AndrewMeronek · Post by **AndrewMeronek** » Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:20 am

One highlight of this otherwise depressing year has been finding good music. One of them is this Ukranian prog "metal" band, Jinjer. I don't particularly care how people label this band genre-wise - they're fun. Thinking back, I'm not really sure when I got into this kind of stuff, although this is the first band I've come across where I've gotten to appreciate the screaming vocal styles. Kind of makes me wish that more people were willing to do this kind of experimentation in jazz. Alas. An obvious comparison is the Rite Of Spring, in terms of the rhythmic complexity. But I think that the first "popular" band I came across that dove into more complex meters was Radiohead. I know, not the first, but possibly the first for me.

Who else would like to share some cool non-trombone music that they've discovered this year?

AndrewMeronek · Post by **AndrewMeronek** » Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:16 pm

Here's another one. Non-trombone, for sure. From three years ago, technically, but new to me.

harrisonreed · Post by **harrisonreed** » Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:46 pm

Okay then!

Doubler · Post by **Doubler** » Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:18 pm

Classic Rock - I can give you thousands of examples. Here are three of too many to count: and and

There couldn't be much more of a contrast to Classic Rock to be found than New Age... to be found on Sirius/XM Spa Channel 68, for example. I like both.

AndrewMeronek · Post by **AndrewMeronek** » Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:29 pm

Doubler wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:18 pm Classic Rock - I can give you thousands of examples. Here are three of too many to count: and and

There couldn't be much more of a contrast to Classic Rock to be found than New Age... to be found on Sirius/XM Spa Channel 68, for example. I like both.

Yeah, classic rock can be a lot of fun! I liked that Peter Frampton clip in particular.

Kbiggs · Post by **Kbiggs** » Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:09 pm

Since you asked...
Wind and string music by Mozart, Haydn, Beethoven, Dvorak
Anything by Heinrich Schütz
The Beatles, Pearl Jam, 10,000 Maniacs
Irish/Scottish traditional
...just to get started.

Also: Slavic Soul Party. Yes, they have trombones. Yes, you will dig them. I promise.

sacfxdx · Post by **sacfxdx** » Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:19 pm

and on the lighter side...
Carlos Nakai -

Posaunus · Post by **Posaunus** » Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:07 pm

Kbiggs wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:09 pm Since you asked...
Wind and string music by Mozart, Haydn, Beethoven, Dvorak
Anything by Heinrich Schütz

Slack Key guitar by Doug McMaster
Bach Violin Sonatas and Partitas played by Paul Galbraith on 8-string guitar

Kingfan · Post by **Kingfan** » Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:17 pm

Ok, we trombone players are way better than trumpet players in every way imaginable, but... Bill Chase.

AndrewMeronek · Post by **AndrewMeronek** » Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:33 pm

sacfxdx wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:19 pm and on the lighter side...
Carlos Nakai -

That wooden flute with lots of reverb definitely is on the lighter side. Cool tone, different than what we get on modern transverse flutes. Almost like a recorder.

AndrewMeronek · Post by **AndrewMeronek** » Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:35 pm

Kingfan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:17 pm Ok, we trombone players are way better than trumpet players in every way imaginable, but... Bill Chase.

Welcome to the Chase fanclub.

Doubler · Post by **Doubler** » Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:06 pm

Kingfan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:17 pm Ok, we trombone players are way better than trumpet players in every way imaginable, but... Bill Chase.

Since you mention the trumpet:

Elow · Post by **Elow** » Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:45 pm

daniel caesar

harrisonreed · Post by **harrisonreed** » Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:22 am

mrdeacon · Post by **mrdeacon** » Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:55 am

harrisonreed wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:46 pm Okay then!

I had the same reaction lol

AndrewMeronek · Post by **AndrewMeronek** » Sun Dec 20, 2020 9:49 am

Well, that's one that I have never heard of. From Wikipedia:

"Punching in a Dream" is a song by New Zealand indie electronic band The Naked and Famous from their debut studio album, Passive Me, Aggressive You (2010)."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punching_in_a_Dream

A bit too much on the "predictable" side for me, as far as the song arrangement itself goes. Nice clean sound, though, and the girl can sing.

AndrewMeronek · Post by **AndrewMeronek** » Sun Dec 20, 2020 9:52 am

Doubler wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:06 pm
Kingfan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:17 pm Ok, we trombone players are way better than trumpet players in every way imaginable, but... Bill Chase.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4SW2Z3_d8I
Since you mention the trumpet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1GrP6thz-k

I refuse to believe that anyone has ever not listened to this album hundreds, if not thousands, of times.

harrisonreed · Post by **harrisonreed** » Sun Dec 20, 2020 4:45 pm

Doubler · Post by **Doubler** » Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:09 pm

AndrewMeronek wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 9:52 am
Doubler wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:06 pm

Since you mention the trumpet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1GrP6thz-k
I refuse to believe that anyone has ever not listened to this album hundreds, if not thousands, of times.

harrisonreed · Post by **harrisonreed** » Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:13 pm

Yui is a great Japanese singer who I like to listen to for my sound concept on alto.

The opening line showcases the beauty of the Japanese language:

Tooi mukashi shasshin de mita
(In a photograph from long ago)
Akai yane no tsuzuku machi de
(I saw a town with red roofs stretching out)
La la la la, de au ki ga shite ita
(I had a feeling I'd meet you there)

Because the language is 100% the opposite of English word order, the way the info comes into your head is as above, but the literal and much less poetic english translation would be more like:

"I had a feeling I'd meet you in the meandering town with the red roofs that I saw in a photo from a distant long ago"

marccromme · Post by **marccromme** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:25 am

I am in love with Postmodern Jukebox which make tho most fun cover songs of modern classics

See for exampler

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u9jGGiqjwf4 Wannabe

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AaSxhKf5pV0 Dansing Queen

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a3Hrn2_LxDs Last christmas

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TliE9rTrzXg 99 Luftballons

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Rve03u7oEvI Gangstas paradise

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VCTOpdlZJ8U Bad romance

Bach5G · Post by **Bach5G** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:42 pm

I like all kinds of music. Country AND western. Although I have my Alexa honkin’ out the Claude Debussy this am.

And, totally unrelated, it’s snowing for the first time this winter.

harrisonreed · Post by **harrisonreed** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:59 pm

Posaunus · Post by **Posaunus** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:28 pm

Bach5G wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:42 pm And, totally unrelated, it’s snowing for the first time this winter.

The first snow is always fun. None in sight here in Southern California - it's 75F today!

Savio · Post by **Savio** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 6:00 pm

In this time of the year;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKILk4k3xvk

Happy Christmas!

harrisonreed · Post by **harrisonreed** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:03 pm

mrdeacon wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:55 am
harrisonreed wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:46 pm Okay then!
I had the same reaction lol

This is my reaction. Challenge accepted:

Post by **Bonearzt** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:02 am

just got turned on to this...

AndrewMeronek · Post by **AndrewMeronek** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:27 am

Bonearzt wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:02 am just got turned on to this...

Wow, an actual hurdy-gurdy!

AndrewMeronek · Post by **AndrewMeronek** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:38 am

harrisonreed wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:03 pm This is my reaction. Challenge accepted:

Didn't Martin Luther say something similar?

Post by **Doug Elliott** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:00 am

Some really unconventional playing techniques and really cool original music.

AndrewMeronek · Post by **AndrewMeronek** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:11 am

Doug Elliott wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:00 am Some really unconventional playing techniques and really cool original music.

Nice. Seems like a precursor to a slide guitar. This reminds me - speaking of unusual playing technique, a friend of mine hipped me to the berimbau. I've never seen anything quite like it, and has a super-rich tone.

harrisonreed · Post by **harrisonreed** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:06 pm

"And the Christmas bells that ring there, are the clanging chimes of doom. Well tonight thank God it's them, instead of you!"

Bono, his assessment of Africa....

RoscoTrombone · Post by **RoscoTrombone** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:19 pm

For me I'm a huge Ben Folds/Five fan.

He's a great song writer and has some fantastic melodies. Some quirky stuff too. I've also noticed that his songs always end properly rather than do that fade out which I find annoying

You can find his stuff with the Western Australia SO and with ymusic who are a group formed from when they were at Julliard.

He has also composed a piano concerto which for a pop musician is pretty good!

I've been lucky enough to have seen him a lot live and have never been disappointed.

And for music on my side of the pond I've been getting back into my teens ie Britpop/indie. Blur/Oasis/Radiohead/Ocean Colour Scene, the list goes on. For me "modern" music has gone to pot and I can't stand it.

Bach5G · Post by **Bach5G** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:57 pm

I’ve posted several times how much I like my Alexa. It’s not perfect. It has difficulty finding Wes Montgomery’s Smokin’ at the Half Note. It found Arnold Schoenberg after I got the umlaut pronunciation to its liking. No luck with Webern though. I’m listening and enjoying Al DiMeola new flamenco right now. I wonder, sometimes, whether all this free access has completely devalued music. All recorded music is just background music, just Muzak.

JohnL · Post by **JohnL** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 7:17 pm

In the spirit of the season, VoicePlay's version of You're a Mean One, Mr. Grinch:

I think Geoff Castellucci has the soul of bass trombonist.

PhilE · Post by **PhilE** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 9:45 pm

This is David Hudson, didgeridoo player extraordinaire and all round good bloke.
I listen to this when I'm looking for some calm music while working.

And if you are interested in how didges are made and played;

Doubler · Post by **Doubler** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 8:31 pm

Here's one of my favorite musicians:

Ever forget the words to a song?:

Post by **Doug Elliott** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 11:19 pm

Wow, Barbara Dennerlein on Hammond B3. I never heard of her, she's fantastic.

Bach5G · Post by **Bach5G** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 12:39 am

Fennerlein did a couple of albums with Ray Andersen.

AndrewMeronek · Post by **AndrewMeronek** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 10:48 am

Doubler wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 8:31 pm Here's one of my favorite musicians:

My introduction to Barbara Dennerlein was maybe a couple of years ago. I have in my CD collection an Elliot Carter album, but upon playing it heard some great jazz funk. Turns out that the CD was either mislabeled or mis-burned, and was actually Dennerlein's album "That's Me" and is one of the ones with Ray Anderson. A very awesome "mistake" find.

AndrewMeronek · Post by **AndrewMeronek** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:10 am

Here's another one, brought by a chain of investigation after Jinjer (the OP) - this is strictly an instrumental. Definitely metal influence, but also Alan Holdsworth.

Doubler · Post by **Doubler** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 2:48 pm

Being a retro kind of guy, I like anything by Wes Montgomery. Here's an example:

AndrewMeronek · Post by **AndrewMeronek** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 3:36 pm

Not to derail the focus of the OP post - but because Barbara Dennerlein was brought up:

BurckhardtS · Post by **BurckhardtS** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:17 pm

Oooh, Doug you might like this if you've never heard it, a similar technique:

This was probably one of the first viral videos on YouTube. It was released in 2006 (I remember, I was 10!). He also plays harp guitar.

Nai Palm / Hiatus Kaiyote (her quartet) are making some of my favorite music right now. They have a unique style blending R&B, soul, extended harmony and so much more into a really complete package.

This video was taken the day after she had a surgery to remove her breast for cancer, in the hospital, impromptu nonetheless:

One of my favorites - the band is from Australia and they incorporate a LOT of polyrhythm and tribal rhythms really seamlessly into their music:

Another favorite of mine:

- live recording

spencercarran · Post by **spencercarran** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:52 am

I grew up listening to my dad's dulcimer music (ignore the accompanying slideshow lol, I think he was excited about iMovie)

Doubler · Post by **Doubler** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 2:10 pm

AndrewMeronek · Post by **AndrewMeronek** » Sun Apr 04, 2021 5:56 pm

Does this get into the territory of "math metal?" Whatever the case, I think I like this quasi-merging of metal and jazz. Weird video, but the music goes places.