Shires 5G
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Posaunus
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Re: Shires 5G
Your lips are not wrong. The Shires 5G is indeed larger than a typical Bach 5G.
This represents a good reason to abandon the "Bach-equivalent" nonsense of mouthpiece sizing. Bach's nomenclature never made sense to me. Nor does Shires/Yamaha. Or almost anyone else. [Greg Black? Come on - 1-3/16? What the heck does that mean?] If Cup I.D. is such an important parameter, why not label mouthpieces with a name or number that refers directly and clearly to that measurement (as do Doug Elliott, AR Resonance, Laskey, and a few others)? Or use a sensibly organized naming system (as Josef Klier has attempted)?
And why not use another symbol / letter to refer to another significant variable (Cup shape / dimension) - again, like Doug Elliott or Josef Klier?
This represents a good reason to abandon the "Bach-equivalent" nonsense of mouthpiece sizing. Bach's nomenclature never made sense to me. Nor does Shires/Yamaha. Or almost anyone else. [Greg Black? Come on - 1-3/16? What the heck does that mean?] If Cup I.D. is such an important parameter, why not label mouthpieces with a name or number that refers directly and clearly to that measurement (as do Doug Elliott, AR Resonance, Laskey, and a few others)? Or use a sensibly organized naming system (as Josef Klier has attempted)?
And why not use another symbol / letter to refer to another significant variable (Cup shape / dimension) - again, like Doug Elliott or Josef Klier?
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JeffBone44
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Re: Shires 5G
I have a Shires 4G which came with my Shires large bore 8 years ago, and it's pretty big. It feels similar to my Doug Elliott XT104/G+ cup. The 104 rim is similar to a Bach 3G diameter.
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JohntheTheologian
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Re: Shires 5G
Just try to make the Bach numbers compare to the Marcinckiewicz mps that I play. Marck's measurements are all different as well.
I play a UMI/CBK-- same mp under different names, I have one of each-- the ones that are tulip shaped like Denis Wick's. The 5G is deeper than a Bach with a slightly wider rim. It's the only non-Marck that I play and works well on my euphonium.
I play a UMI/CBK-- same mp under different names, I have one of each-- the ones that are tulip shaped like Denis Wick's. The 5G is deeper than a Bach with a slightly wider rim. It's the only non-Marck that I play and works well on my euphonium.