King 3B doesn't take large or small shank mouthpieces

[blomuto]

Hi everyone, I just purchased a King 3B concert off ebay in pretty good condition, and my Bach 6 1/2 AL mouthpiece was too small for the receiver, so I bought a Bach 5G with a large shank. Unfortunately, that one doesn't seem to fit right either -- I can barely fit the mouthpiece into the receiver.

Upon further research, I've found what I believe to be the same trombone here:https://www.hnwhite.com/store/product/1 ... -sn-360985

This lists the mouthpiece as a C.M. Purviance LA 4Star 1, which seems to be much more expensive than other alternatives. I'm sure it's a great mouthpiece, but I'd like to find something more in my budget.

Has anybody else had a problem like this? Is this just an incompatibility between King and Bach? I appreciate any help or recommendations I can get

[BGuttman]

The 3B should take a small shank mouthpiece. It used to come with a King M31, then a 12C, then a 7C. All standard small shank mouthpieces.

It sounds like someone has removed the leadpipe from yours. Have a tech check it out.

[Doldom]

If you pull out original two piece leadpipe out then it would be too large for small shank mouthpieces and small(barely fits) for large shank mouthpiece. I also vote for leadpipe check. It may be leadpipe-less setting or modified leadpipe that accomodates medium shank mouthpieces.

[Doug Elliott]

Correct, it sounds like there's no leadpipe in it.

[Slidehamilton]

Or the pipe is really worn down. The new King pipes are very good. You could put a new lead pipe in it, if the old one will come out.

[Doug Elliott]

The slide tube with no leadpipe is .508, which exactly agrees with a large shank "barely fit the mouthpiece into the receiver."
There isn't a receiver right now. Get a leadpipe.

[JohnL]

Get thee (and the horn) to a repair tech.

[greenbean]

The body of the leadpipe might be in there. But the receiver part of the leadpipe is missing. I would have a new, stock 3B pipe installed. It's a good leadpipe and an easy fix for a good tech.

[blomuto]

Thanks everyone! I'll find a repair person and see if they agree with everyone's assessments. If you happen to know a good tech in the NYC area, please let me know!

[harrisonreed]

FWIW, my 3B ended up having a one piece pipe in it -- not all 3Bs are the two piece type.

[OneTon]

FWIW, my 3B ended up having a one piece pipe in it -- not all 3Bs are the two piece type.

Please educate me. I thought all leadpipes were one piece.

[Burgerbob]

FWIW, my 3B ended up having a one piece pipe in it -- not all 3Bs are the two piece type.

Please educate me. I thought all leadpipes were one piece.

Many Kings have two-piece leadpipes, with a separate receiver and venturi. King 3Bs had single piece leadpipes up until the '60s?

Two piece on the left, one piece on the right.

[WGWTR180]

Thanks everyone! I'll find a repair person and see if they agree with everyone's assessments. If you happen to know a good tech in the NYC area, please let me know!

Well there are several.

[harrisonreed]

They had the One Piece thru the 60's at least, I think.

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[pbone3b]

Thanks everyone! I'll find a repair person and see if they agree with everyone's assessments. If you happen to know a good tech in the NYC area, please let me know!

Josh Landress
38 W 32nd St Suite 908, New York, NY 10001
https://www.jlandressbrass.com/

[OneTon]

Many Kings have two-piece leadpipes, with a separate receiver and venturi. King 3Bs had single piece leadpipes up until the '60s?

Two piece on the left, one piece on the right.

Thanks, Aiden