Metal Bass Straight mutes
-
- Posts: 91
- Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:04 am
Metal Bass Straight mutes
OK -- I already own a Crown, Jo-Ral, and Wallace. My section has been using Bonna carbon and Am-Rein wood mutes for the last several years. Love the response and evenness of sound. MD wants us to move to metal to better match the tpts.
Was wondering how the newer Best Brass and Tools4Winds (or other) mutes play? Are they a step-up from Crown and J-R in response and low register?
I know about Wick, Windy City, and every other metal major brand of the last 40yrs.
Was wondering how the newer Best Brass and Tools4Winds (or other) mutes play? Are they a step-up from Crown and J-R in response and low register?
I know about Wick, Windy City, and every other metal major brand of the last 40yrs.
Harold Van Schaik
Bass Trombone
The Florida Orchestra
S.E. Shires Artist
Bass Trombone
The Florida Orchestra
S.E. Shires Artist
-
- Posts: 1295
- Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:46 am
- Location: Vancouver WA
Re: Metal Bass Straight mutes
Would the MD consider asking the trumpets to change their mutes to better match the trombones?
Kenneth Biggs
I have known a great many troubles, but most of them have never happened.
—Mark Twain (attributed)
I have known a great many troubles, but most of them have never happened.
—Mark Twain (attributed)
- BGuttman
- Posts: 6370
- Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:19 am
- Location: Cow Hampshire
Re: Metal Bass Straight mutes
I can't imagine you can't use Crowns. Or any other ones you all have.
One of the best low register metal mutes I have for my bass trombone is the H&B Philharmonic (pear shaped metal mute).
One of the best low register metal mutes I have for my bass trombone is the H&B Philharmonic (pear shaped metal mute).
Bruce Guttman
Merrimack Valley Philharmonic Orchestra
"Almost Professional"
Merrimack Valley Philharmonic Orchestra
"Almost Professional"
-
- Posts: 91
- Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:04 am
Re: Metal Bass Straight mutes
He wants the metallic sound -- They're on Soulo straights.... Soulo does't make a bass mute.
Harold Van Schaik
Bass Trombone
The Florida Orchestra
S.E. Shires Artist
Bass Trombone
The Florida Orchestra
S.E. Shires Artist
-
- Posts: 91
- Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:04 am
Re: Metal Bass Straight mutes
I'm currently on a Crown copper bottom. Had and used the mute for almost 30yrs. Best metal mute I've ever played. Was wondering if any of the newer designs have upped the game and have a response and low register like the Bonna and Am-Rein have.
Harold Van Schaik
Bass Trombone
The Florida Orchestra
S.E. Shires Artist
Bass Trombone
The Florida Orchestra
S.E. Shires Artist
-
- Posts: 3982
- Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:54 pm
- Location: California
Re: Metal Bass Straight mutes
Am I missing something? I think my Denis Wick aluminum bass straight mute sounds pretty good.
(I also have the Denis Wick "convertible" bass mute, but never use it as a straight mute.
(I also have the Denis Wick "convertible" bass mute, but never use it as a straight mute.
-
- Posts: 1125
- Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2018 7:20 am
- Location: Boston, MA, USA
- Contact:
Re: Metal Bass Straight mutes
Harold, I've play-tested the Best Brass and Tools4Winds metal straights alongside the WIck. Wick is the winner for me in every way, and it's 1/3 the price.
They had all of them in stock at Virtuosity in Boston a few weeks ago.
They had all of them in stock at Virtuosity in Boston a few weeks ago.
Gabe Rice
Faculty
Boston University School of Music
Kinhaven Music School Senior Session
Bass Trombonist
Rhode Island Philharmonic Orchestra
Vermont Symphony Orchestra
Faculty
Boston University School of Music
Kinhaven Music School Senior Session
Bass Trombonist
Rhode Island Philharmonic Orchestra
Vermont Symphony Orchestra
-
- Posts: 61
- Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2018 4:22 am
- Location: Edinburgh
Re: Metal Bass Straight mutes
So if he wants everyone on the same mutes the trumpets will have to change.BassBoneFL wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:39 pm He wants the metallic sound -- They're on Soulo straights.... Soulo does't make a bass mute.
Ronnie
Shires Tru-Bore (Bb/F/Gb/D)
Bach Stradivarius 42 (unlacquered bell)
Excel Bb/F/Gb/D (Chinese made Yamaha YBL-613G clone)
Bach Stradivarius 42 (unlacquered bell)
Excel Bb/F/Gb/D (Chinese made Yamaha YBL-613G clone)
-
- Posts: 91
- Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:04 am
Re: Metal Bass Straight mutes
Thanks, Gabe. That's what I wanted to know.GabeLangfur wrote: ↑Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:30 am Harold, I've play-tested the Best Brass and Tools4Winds metal straights alongside the WIck. Wick is the winner for me in every way, and it's 1/3 the price.
They had all of them in stock at Virtuosity in Boston a few weeks ago.
Harold Van Schaik
Bass Trombone
The Florida Orchestra
S.E. Shires Artist
Bass Trombone
The Florida Orchestra
S.E. Shires Artist
-
- Posts: 489
- Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:46 am
Re: Metal Bass Straight mutes
Metal mutes are a hassle.... none of them quite perfect. We have used Crowns for years.... copper bottom with holes drilled . I often use a very old Wick that I got from Denis himself.... it does the best job, but has a unique sound. The Wallace are very odd to handle... easily dropped.... all the other Wallace mutes are great.
Chris
Chris
-
- Posts: 94
- Joined: Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:38 pm
- Location: Columbus, OH
Re: Metal Bass Straight mutes
On your crown mutes, where have the holes been drilled - in the aluminum or in the copper? Prepping for surgery on my own.
-
- Posts: 489
- Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:46 am
Re: Metal Bass Straight mutes
I drill mine on the side of the copper part.posaunebone wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:01 pm On your crown mutes, where have the holes been drilled - in the aluminum or in the copper? Prepping for surgery on my own.
Chris.
- ssking2b
- Posts: 406
- Joined: Sat Sep 29, 2018 1:34 pm
- Location: Richmond, VA metropolitan area
- Contact:
Re: Metal Bass Straight mutes
The conductor is an idiot. He obviously heard something but is asking/demanding the wrong thing. Put everybody in fiber or metal and I'll bet he can't tell the difference if he doesn't look.
BTW the Denis Wick metal straight mute is exceptional!
BTW the Denis Wick metal straight mute is exceptional!
===============================================
XO Brass Artist - http://www.pjonestrombone.com
===============================================
XO Brass Artist - http://www.pjonestrombone.com
===============================================
-
- Posts: 110
- Joined: Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:30 am
- Location: Richmond, Virginia
Re: Metal Bass Straight mutes
Valuable line of posts. Wick wins!
Re: Phil's observation. And yes, the audience can't tell the difference either.
Re: Phil's observation. And yes, the audience can't tell the difference either.
- Tooloud
- Posts: 86
- Joined: Sat Mar 31, 2018 2:01 am
Re: Metal Bass Straight mutes
JoRal bass trombone mute with brass bottom. For years. No complaints from anybody.
-
- Posts: 187
- Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:27 pm
- Location: Portland, OR
Re: Metal Bass Straight mutes
Tools4Winds...
Have both a straight and cup. Evenness and intonation lock in nicely. I switched from Wick straight and cup.
Have both a straight and cup. Evenness and intonation lock in nicely. I switched from Wick straight and cup.
- Tooloud
- Posts: 86
- Joined: Sat Mar 31, 2018 2:01 am
Re: Metal Bass Straight mutes
I use the tools4winds cup-mute. Absolutely love it. The straight, though, failed to win me over from JoRal.
Just my 2cts..
Just my 2cts..