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If you had an unlimited budget, what 1 trombone would you buy?

All bets are off, whether it's a vintage jazz horn or a top of the line concert trombone, if you could have any one tenor or bass, which would you choose?

I would probably get a Rath R3 with the nickel bell, a Rotax valve and the straight neckpipe. Although it would probably still just be a nice runner up to the '68 Elkhart 88h I already have.

My SCHWING horns would be a Thein Universal bass and F Contra!!

I think a Thein Universal tenor or Inderbinen Quart.

My achievable dream is having a nice Holton 169 or early TR185. I still miss the early TR185 I had!

If I dream big... I'd love to have M&W whip something up for me... either a Holton style single valve with a plugin valve or a setup similar to Minick.

Glassl alto with sterling silver bell.

My dream would be always moving to the next horn. I enjoy the hunt more than the kill. First stop, Rath.

mrdeacon wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:35 pm My achievable dream is having a nice Holton 169 or early TR185. I still miss the early TR185 I had!

Those were for a long time on my list too. I’m fortunate to have found two Holton TR185, both with a removable second valve ("birdsnest") and also one fantastic Holton 169.

I have most if the horns I want and new horns are not on my list, only vintage. In the future I might consider a Williams 6 if I could try the horn over here or if someone wanted to sell me a Wessex F-Contra for a fair price and arrange for me to try before I buy. Often I don't know until it happens. It might be someone offers to sell me their horn and then I know that's the horn I want.

/Tom

Hmm. I'm on the lookout for a good Bach 12 or 16. Maybe a Laetzsch contra.

But otherwise, I really like the horns I have... or I wouldn't be playing them! That doesn't mean they'll be with me forever, but if I didn't enjoy playing them I would get something else. There's no reason to settle for less than stellar trombones, at their price point.

For me, it was a Sterling Plus 16M and (after playing one) a 9. Then over time I found and bought them, and they're awesome, and now there isn't much need for me to keep looking for horns. I haven't played a money-no-object horn before though, and I'm not sure I really want to learn how mistaken I have been....

Wouldn't it be awesome to own one of our hero's horns?

Maybe Frank Crisafulli's holton? Ralph Sauer's Conn?

Adam

Give me a M&W and I'll never look in the classifieds again

I just want my .508 bore shires that I traded in back. Let it go because I needed something less beastly for a gig that ended up not being worth it. I contacted the new owner once about it, he's happy with the horn and won't let it go - I can't blame him, it's a great horn. Best salsa horn ever. The horn I traded it for is a great horn, the shires just fit me better.

I have a Williams 6 (a Bob) that I love, and hopefully I don't make the same mistake with this one. It's special.

Brand new, perfect Conn 88HSGX, traditional wrap and rotor. An achievable dream.

There are two that I want.

First one would be a King 3B, pre 1970. Full silver plate exterior, gold plate on the interior bell. .508 bore, with a traditional wrap F attachment. Mint condition.
It would be my ideal jazz horn. My school has one similar, and it's such a treat to play on.

My ideal tenor is a Conn 88hcl. Love the valve action. Want a heavy gold plate bell with some fancy engravings on it.

Ideal bass would be a 62hc, with an F/G/Eb valve config. Also with heavy gold plate and fancy engravings.

I'm a sucker for Conn horns.

a Thein Universal alto with red brass Kruspe bell

Solid gold 10 ft tall trombone statue that resembles the sword in the stone.

You said any budget right?

A contra.

But you said "tenor or bass", so I'd probably go with a custom Shires bass or an Arkbone.

Already have my ideal tenor trombone ... But a Shires alto that played like their TIS but with a much lighter slide would be nice. Maybe cut a bit shorter where both the bell and slide meet, so that I actually needed/could use the TIS ...

I played the yellow one at ATW, but it just made me sad, because I knew my struggle needed to continue on the alto that I already have.

King 3b silversonic

HawaiiTromboneGuy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:08 pm Glassl alto with sterling silver bell.

Yes!

I would have a custom or modified BBb Contrabass Trombone with F and Gb attachments, a mostly open wrap, and Hagmann valves.

Williams from LA or Burbank. Models 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. I own both LA and Burbank horns from Earl and they play like nothing else....

Jnoxon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:08 pm Williams from LA or Burbank. Models 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. I own both LA and Burbank horns from Earl and they play like nothing else....

I don't just want any Williams. I want Spike's horn.

I had always dreamed of owning a Shires bass for big band work. And now that there are more options available, I'm more curious than ever. It'd probably be specified like this, or something close:

B62LNYC slide. This is a longer slide, not lightweight. Nickel silver tubes and sleeves, yellow crook. May not be the right arranging of the L but the point is clear.
Independent rotary valves in F/G/Eb (when will they introduce dual bore valves for basses?)
BYC tuning slide, maybe even BYB
BI 2DM -- More compact taper, medium weight Deutsch rose brass with unsoldered bead. This is in between their yellow brass and gold brass (85/15). (If they don't offer this material for bells, why is it listed on the site under bells? Can someone clarify this?)

For small/medium bore, I'd go for a K&H Bart Van Lier .512 with F, and possibly go for the gold brass bell and lightweight slide. Large tenor TBD.

For classical, an F/CC/D bass (not contra) with similar specs to that Gronitz F bass at the Horn Guys, but with a longer slide (.562" bore) with a handle to play the Bartok Concerto, and shorter bell section.

And a Thein BBb contrabass trombone. Because why not?

A Thein Star Valve or Universal. Or a Yamaha YBL-605 (the “German” bass of them).

But actually I would like some custom parts to modify my current bass more. Namely .547”-.563” dual bore slide, gold brass bell, and maybe all-nickel silver slide also.

I’d like a Yam 612.

For a bass I'd like a Duo Gravis (not silversonic) from 1981 if possible (i can't find production years on it currently) modded by BAC with instrument innovations valves, converted to Bb/F/D open wrap, Williams style handgrip, with a carbon fiber slide.

For tenor, already have it (1981 King 3B+/f) but want to get a bit of work done on it...Williams style handgrip, instrument innovations rotor, open wrap and carbon fiber slide also from BAC.

Bach5G wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:38 pm I’d like a Yam 612.

Bass ybl-612? I had one!! First bass i owned. Sold it to upgrade to my 62h.

whitbey wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:35 pm

HawaiiTromboneGuy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:08 pm Glassl alto with sterling silver bell.

Yes!

HawaiiTromboneGuy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:08 pm Glassl alto with sterling silver bell.

I thought by now you'd own everyone's dream horn! You've already got two Williams 10s for Christ's sake!

My choice would be a Rath. Go to the factory and experience having a trombone made up to your own specifications. Enjoy trying out all the possibilities before deciding on what you want . If you later want to change something you can!

24H

mrdeacon wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:32 am

HawaiiTromboneGuy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:08 pm Glassl alto with sterling silver bell.

I thought by now you'd own everyone's dream horn! You've already got two Williams 10s for Christ's sake!

Ha! I still need more horns!

Surprised noone's put this out there yet - I'd go for Jeff Reynolds' Minick contra.
A Thein BVD contra would be ok as well...

For something that would actually get played, one of these days someone will build a .500 bore 7.75" nickle bell....

I already own my dream trombones!

I would go with I also own my dream horn. Sterling silver Edwards. And when you go to dream trombones, my stable is a happy one. I do want to upgrade my alto someday. Sterling silver bell and a nickle doubore slide with a trill valve.

King 1490S 7B DuoGravis with Mt Vernon Bach 1½G mouthpiece

flotrb wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:09 am King 1490S 7B DuoGravis with Mt Vernon Bach 1½G mouthpiece

I have a 2107 7B from 1980 and a Mount Vernon 1 1/2 G mouthpiece. Not for sale, but if you are in southern New Hampshire and we can meet up you can try mine.

My Schilke/Greenhoe tenor is the dream horn I never knew I wanted... it was always Conn style in my dreams!

I'm working closer to my dream bass. Hopefully an M & W, with a one-piece gold bell, yellow tuning slide, dependent valves, and a dual-bore yellow slide with a nickel crook- and of course my newly-refinished MV 1 1/2G, blowing through a sterling Bach 50 pipe.

Of course I need to finish my thesis, and get one of those fabled six-figure engineering jobs before I can drop ~$8K on another trombone. In the meantime, my Conn Frankenbass will do just fine!

I'd like an easy-to-play F-Contra that is as light as a feather but still projects like a laser cannon.

Oh, and some pixie dust! lol

-- Andy in OKC

afugate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:36 am I'd like an easy-to-play F-Contra that is as light as a feather but still projects like a laser cannon.

Oh, and some pixie dust! lol

-- Andy in OKC

Have you not tried the Rath R90 ?????

Chris

FOSSIL wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:09 pm

afugate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:36 am I'd like an easy-to-play F-Contra that is as light as a feather but still projects like a laser cannon.

Oh, and some pixie dust! lol

-- Andy in OKC

Have you not tried the Rath R90 ?????

Chris

No. Perhaps I should start saving my money? (And/or pixie dust? )

I should note that I'm not a big guy. I'm still hoping for my growth spurt, but so far it's evaded me for 52+ years!

-- Andy in OKC

A custom bass from BAC: .562 single bore nickle slide with the same width between the tubes as an Edwards B502, Independent Instrument Innovations valves, open valve wrap designed to my specs with a bore slightly larger than the slide (.578?), interchangeable leadpipes, sterling silver 9.5" bell with gold inner plating and some really cool custom ingraving. Also the bell brace would be positioned to allow me to wrap my thumb around it and the hand brace on the slide would be curved and ergonomically "correct".

Either that or a Butler C12 bass.

Robert

This one:
https://www.dillonmusic.com/used-rath-r ... rmationtab

Aside from concert band/symphonic work, this would cover everything I need for my wedding/events band and funk gigs for the rest of my life. And it's convertible, should I not need the trigger.

*drool*

My dream horn is one that makes me play jazz like Mark Nightingale and classical like Jorgen van Rijen.

I tried to get the first one - I have a Rath R10 with the Rath s11 MN mouthpiece but unfortunately it’s rubbish - I play nothing like Mark Nightingale

1957 Bach 42 with a Shires True Bore valve.

I`m extremely happy with all my horns but.... if $$$$ is no option...
I`d love a Bach Lt8G

Large bore tenor and bass - Stomvi titan
Small bore tenor- King 3b silversonic

8parktoollover wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:14 am Large bore tenor and bass - Stomvi titan
Small bore tenor- King 3b silversonic

Did you try one of the stomvis? How do they play for you?