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Trombone equivalent to Claude Gordon, Cat Anderson and Roy Stevens (trumpet)
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:26 pm
by ttf_bonenick
So what would be the trombone equivalent to the above trumpet embouchure development (with emphasis on efficient set up and expanding register? Is there any substantial differences?
Trombone equivalent to Claude Gordon, Cat Anderson and Roy Stevens (trumpet)
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 5:24 pm
by ttf_William Lang
ahhhh reading comprehension...
anyways - cool to know there's a low brass version of the book - the trumpet version is still good to read from though - the lessons are transferable across the brass family, i believe.
Trombone equivalent to Claude Gordon, Cat Anderson and Roy Stevens (trumpet)
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 5:57 pm
by ttf_robcat2075
Trombone equivalent to Claude Gordon, Cat Anderson and Roy Stevens (trumpet)
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:21 pm
by ttf_baileyman
Copy Skip Layton. Check him out on Kenton's 1947 Machito. That's him battling with Buddy Childers at the end for the highest note. If you can't copy Skip, well, the first part of winning is to choose your race.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=kenton+machito&&view=detail&mid=B4E570F0DB985DFCCC79B4E570F0DB985DFCCC79&FORM=VRDGAR
Trombone equivalent to Claude Gordon, Cat Anderson and Roy Stevens (trumpet)
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:32 pm
by ttf_Graham Martin
I think you would have to ask Dave Steinmeyer.
Just listen to his ending on "Through The Eyes Of Love":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdiQ2X2nC_o
Von is pretty good also and there are some lessons on high notes shown below the video.
Trombone equivalent to Claude Gordon, Cat Anderson and Roy Stevens (trumpet)
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 2:58 pm
by ttf_bonenick
The famous unfurling of the lips, used by some trumpet lead trumpeters - I tried to implemented on my tenor playing, so far a complete failure - I guess that the rim size is just too large for that - anyone opinions on that?
Trombone equivalent to Claude Gordon, Cat Anderson and Roy Stevens (trumpet)
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:50 am
by ttf_William Lang
Quote from: bonenick on Jun 12, 2017, 02:58PMThe famous unfurling of the lips, used by some trumpet lead trumpeters - I tried to implemented on my tenor playing, so far a complete failure - I guess that the rim size is just too large for that - anyone opinions on that?
yeah don't do that
Trombone equivalent to Claude Gordon, Cat Anderson and Roy Stevens (trumpet)
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:43 am
by ttf_svenlarsson
Quote from: bonenick on Jun 12, 2017, 02:58PMThe famous unfurling of the lips, used by some trumpet lead trumpeters - I tried to implemented on my tenor playing, so far a complete failure - I guess that the rim size is just too large for that - anyone opinions on that?
Have you tried that on your trumpet?
Actually I have tried it on trombone in the 60s, it worked a limited way. The problem wasn´t the rim but the sound and low range. In those days I tried lots of strange things. Man of those thing on trombone.
Trombone equivalent to Claude Gordon, Cat Anderson and Roy Stevens (trumpet)
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:24 am
by ttf_bonenick
Quote from: svenlarsson on Jun 14, 2017, 12:43AMHave you tried that on your trumpet?
Yes, it works for me on trumpet. It took me some experimenting practice, but I found it helpful. However, on my SS tenor 7C it just feels weird, the mouthpiece has a very little contact with the unfurled tissue, so it hinders more that it helps.
Trombone equivalent to Claude Gordon, Cat Anderson and Roy Stevens (trumpet)
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:24 am
by ttf_bonenick
Quote from: svenlarsson on Jun 14, 2017, 12:43AMHave you tried that on your trumpet?
Yes, it works for me on trumpet. It took me some experimenting practice, but I found it helpful. However, on my SS tenor 7C it just feels weird, the mouthpiece has a very little contact with the unfurled tissue, so it hinders more that it helps.
