The worst luck (broken trigger)
- LeoInFL
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The worst luck (broken trigger)
We had the 1st concert of our back-to-back last night. Wouldn't you know it, as we were running through a few rough spots pre-concert my fellow bass trombonist had the F-trigger lever break off where it solders onto the bell brace. He had to try to manage the entire concert with just the Gb attachment. Luckily one of our section-mates is letting him borrow his bass for tonight's show.
He's had that bass for 20+ years with never a problem until last night.
He's had that bass for 20+ years with never a problem until last night.
LeoInFL
Getzen 4047DS :
~Bousfield S
~Conn 5G | Edwards .525"
Olds P-24G : G&W Mark-1 | Wessex .555"
Melton 41 F Cimbasso : DE CB S118_L*_L16Am
Holton 77 Fr Horn : Laskey 825G
CFCA Symphony Orch
(2016-2023)
Getzen 4047DS :
~Bousfield S
~Conn 5G | Edwards .525"
Olds P-24G : G&W Mark-1 | Wessex .555"
Melton 41 F Cimbasso : DE CB S118_L*_L16Am
Holton 77 Fr Horn : Laskey 825G
CFCA Symphony Orch
(2016-2023)
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Re: The worst luck (broken trigger)
Long long ago there was a thread entitled "Not If, but When!"
I don't recall if this was the trombone-l, the old OTJ, or some other iteration, but Doug Yeo told the story of a BSO performance where the trigger broke, and how the section did a workaround and still played.
If anybody remembers, you might share a link.
Note to self: bring a minimum of two trombones to every important gig.
I don't recall if this was the trombone-l, the old OTJ, or some other iteration, but Doug Yeo told the story of a BSO performance where the trigger broke, and how the section did a workaround and still played.
If anybody remembers, you might share a link.
Note to self: bring a minimum of two trombones to every important gig.
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Re: The worst luck (broken trigger)
I was at LA Phil to listen to Alpine Symphony a few years ago. The regular 2nd trombone sub was playing 3rd trombone, and had bought a new 50 slide to play on his 42AFG for the low part. I can't remember exactly when it happened, but he played something, emptied his spit valve, and the whole assembly broke right off. I watched it all live!!
I think David or Jim (principal and associate) had some chewing gum or something, and he slapped it on the hole for the duration. I was not jealous of his situation.
I think David or Jim (principal and associate) had some chewing gum or something, and he slapped it on the hole for the duration. I was not jealous of his situation.
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Re: The worst luck (broken trigger)
To be fair, it's happened to me on a 112H (in a rehearsal, thankfully) as well.
Aidan Ritchie, LA area player and teacher
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Re: The worst luck (broken trigger)
I was playing a community symphony pops concert about 18 or 19 years ago on my dependent Getzen 1062 when the F trigger mount came unsoldered from the from the brace, leaving me helpless on anything below 7th position E, other than pedal tones. Fortunately I think it was only the last number on the program, possibly the Symphonic Scenario from Victory at Sea, which didn't have much below that note if I recall. That was the only time that horn has ever let me down.
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Re: The worst luck (broken trigger)
Had two instances.
One: My bass trombone fell off a trombone stand and landed on the Gb trigger mechanism, breaking a plastic part. I was able to lock the Gb trigger in the "unused" position and finish out on just the F trigger. Now I have a spare plastic part and can replace it quickly (although I have not had to).
Two: Middle of a brass quintet concert. The water key fell off my trombone. Fortunately I had a spare trombone in the car and finished out on it.
One: My bass trombone fell off a trombone stand and landed on the Gb trigger mechanism, breaking a plastic part. I was able to lock the Gb trigger in the "unused" position and finish out on just the F trigger. Now I have a spare plastic part and can replace it quickly (although I have not had to).
Two: Middle of a brass quintet concert. The water key fell off my trombone. Fortunately I had a spare trombone in the car and finished out on it.
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Re: The worst luck (broken trigger)
I also had the f-attachment assembly break loose where it was soldered to the bell brace on my Bach 42B on the day of a performance - in my case, it was in Grand Rapids for the North American Brass Band Association competition; our band was competing in the championship section. Long story short, I was able to track down a repairwoman who had a shop nearby, and had my horn back to me good-as-new in a couple of hours. I had bought the 42 new about 27 years before, and had never had any problems with it until that day. Trying to look at the bright side, at least it wasn't just before, or during, our performance.
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Re: The worst luck (broken trigger)
I was playing bass on a concert when my F-valve froze. Probably dirt or grit got stuck in the valve. I finished the concert with the G-flat valve. Fortunately, there were no notes below a low D.
Kenneth Biggs
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Re: The worst luck (broken trigger)
Never had a saddle pop off, but I've had springs fail.
I've also had to replace bumpers on the fly (a common issue with some Olds rotors, since the bumper is a little O-ring on a post). I carry spares and the necessary tools with me. I've had a fair amount of practice, so it only takes me a couple minutes to take the rotor apart, pop a new O-ring on, and reassemble it. I've also gotten pretty good at noticing the signs that a O-ring is getting tired.
I've also had to replace bumpers on the fly (a common issue with some Olds rotors, since the bumper is a little O-ring on a post). I carry spares and the necessary tools with me. I've had a fair amount of practice, so it only takes me a couple minutes to take the rotor apart, pop a new O-ring on, and reassemble it. I've also gotten pretty good at noticing the signs that a O-ring is getting tired.
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Re: The worst luck (broken trigger)
I was one of those extra horns that play at the end of Pines of Rome. We were seated at the back of the orchestra but expected to stand when our passage came up in the finale.
About 10 seconds before I went onstage I realized my fly was open so I reached down to zip it up and... the tab comes off and the "slider" that meshes the zipper teeth together falls apart! This is extra alarming because the button that holds the top together had been gone for years. Who needs the button if the zipper holds the pants together anyway, right?
There's no to time to run around looking for safety pins or duct tape or whatever else they do in movies when someone tears a garment. I will have to make do with a fly that is about 75% zipped with just inertia and friction holding it together. I figure if I suck my gut in for the next 20 minutes it will be OK.
But, no, it was not OK. By the time the Appian way gets to Rome my fly is completely undone. Probably not many people noticed but awkward none-the-less.
About 10 seconds before I went onstage I realized my fly was open so I reached down to zip it up and... the tab comes off and the "slider" that meshes the zipper teeth together falls apart! This is extra alarming because the button that holds the top together had been gone for years. Who needs the button if the zipper holds the pants together anyway, right?
There's no to time to run around looking for safety pins or duct tape or whatever else they do in movies when someone tears a garment. I will have to make do with a fly that is about 75% zipped with just inertia and friction holding it together. I figure if I suck my gut in for the next 20 minutes it will be OK.
But, no, it was not OK. By the time the Appian way gets to Rome my fly is completely undone. Probably not many people noticed but awkward none-the-less.