Do I need a thicker/wider or flatter rim?
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Do I need a thicker/wider or flatter rim?
What are the signs?
90's Bach 50B3LOG with 3d-printed valve cores
Shires lightweight slide with B2N leadpipe
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Shires lightweight slide with B2N leadpipe
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Re: Do I need a thicker/wider or flatter rim?
The signs?
Probably G.A.S. (Gear Acquisition Syndrome).
Probably G.A.S. (Gear Acquisition Syndrome).
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Re: Do I need a thicker/wider or flatter rim?
Nice!
I'm asking for a friend, of course.
90's Bach 50B3LOG with 3d-printed valve cores
Shires lightweight slide with B2N leadpipe
DE LB113mW / L / L8 or L10
Shires lightweight slide with B2N leadpipe
DE LB113mW / L / L8 or L10
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Re: Do I need a thicker/wider or flatter rim?
If you have a lot of room on your face for the mouthpiece - not close to your nose or chin - you'd probably like a wider rim. So it depends on both your face structure and mouthpiece placement.
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Re: Do I need a thicker/wider or flatter rim?
I'm loving the 104 Standard rim, Doug! After years of using narrower rims (probably due to facial hair and comfort) I'm rediscovering some decent characteristics to my playing that I have been missing. Spending a lot of time with your LT F+ cup and G8 shank. Thank you!
Also, thanks for being part of my 3rd post! Excited to gain more access to this forum
Dave
Also, thanks for being part of my 3rd post! Excited to gain more access to this forum
Dave
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Re: Do I need a thicker/wider or flatter rim?
Plenty of clearance above & below - my placement appears to be fairly centeredDoug Elliott wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2024 12:34 am If you have a lot of room on your face for the mouthpiece - not close to your nose or chin - you'd probably like a wider rim. So it depends on both your face structure and mouthpiece placement.
What prompted the question is that, when I play something heavier / articulated and loud in the mid-upper range ( to ), I feel like I get stuck and slurring up from there is like hitting a wall. Alternately, dropping down to the bottom of the staff the sound is often pinched at first. But under normal conditions, wide slurs aren't a problem - not a range or flexibility issue.
Before some unthinking troll says "too much pressure", I'm only using enough outside pressure to offset the internal pressure, and yes that pressure is higher when playing louder and with stronger articulations.
My hope is that distributing the pressure over more area will help - assuming what I described is typical of needing a wider rim.
What are the downsides / trade-offs?
90's Bach 50B3LOG with 3d-printed valve cores
Shires lightweight slide with B2N leadpipe
DE LB113mW / L / L8 or L10
Shires lightweight slide with B2N leadpipe
DE LB113mW / L / L8 or L10