I am a tuba and bass trombone player. I am interested in purchasing a Miraphone 58W 4 valve tenor trombone. The bell size is 9.449 and the bore is .512. This appears to be the closest horn I can find that could be used as a valve bass trombone. Does anyone have any experience with with the 58W? I can't find anything searching the internet.
Re: Miraphone 58 W 4 valve trombone
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2024 8:34 am
by Burgerbob
Sounds like it would be a German style valve trombone. I'm not sure if it will really cover the bass spectrum the way you would want.
Re: Miraphone 58 W 4 valve trombone
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2024 10:30 am
by Finetales
That is certainly not a valve bass trombone. Thein makes large bore tenor and bass valve trombones, if you want to spend that kind of cash.
Re: Miraphone 58 W 4 valve trombone
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2024 12:20 pm
by marccromme
Why would you like to find a 4 valve bass trombone? It will be stuffy and notoriously out of tune in the cash register. .. to play B and E in tune , you would need a 5th valve, and it would still not cover the gap to pedal Bb sufficient in tune.
better use the loooong tuning slide that your existing bass trombone already has. ..
Re: Miraphone 58 W 4 valve trombone
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2024 1:49 pm
by Nomsis
These instruments are not a direct substitute for normal modern bass trombones but have their entirely own use case:
I want to join this band! Play a tune, drink a beer, play a tune, drink a beer, play a tune, ...
Music to my German ears.
Re: Miraphone 58 W 4 valve trombone
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2024 2:43 pm
by Nomsis
Posaunus wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2024 2:30 pm
I want to join this band! Play a tune, drink a beer, play a tune, drink a beer, play a tune, ...
Music to my German ears.
Sometimes i think the sole reason for the invention of the valve trombone was the practical impossibility of playing a normal trombone behind a beer table... (:
PS: I usually prefer bass trumpets/flugels over valve trombones, they have similar use cases in this style of music. Valve trombones are nice as well though.