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hi, what do you think of the Bach model 36 Mt Vernon? I'd like to hear some of your opinions or experiences on the matter... in the next few days I have to go and try one, it's an instrument from the 50s... I've heard some stories about it but I'd like to understand better. Thanks to anyone who wants to leave their opinion

Why ask opinions when you get to go try it? Even if 100% of people said it would make you the best player on earth but you hated it, don’t buy it. You will have more information than anyone in a few days about that horn.

I ask because I don't know the tool, especially because it is a very old tool and then I think that having a few more points of view is not a bad thing, maybe there is something in particular that I need to pay attention to... anyway thanks for the answer

I played one for a while and it was a great horn. You have to search out what makes the horn play best for you. The one I played was great. They do vary, though, so keep an eye out.

I have a Mount Vernon Lt36 and a 1972 36B.
The Mount Vernon is definitely a darker sound and a little freer blowing
If I HAD to go to just one horn , this would be it

It's a Mt Vernon Bach 36. There was considerable variation in how the horns played at that time.
No one can tell you how "that" MtV 36 plays, if they haven't played it.
There are great ones. There are less great ones. You are the only one who can decide which this one is for you.

Antonio1976 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 8:46 am hi, what do you think of the Bach model 36 Mt Vernon? I'd like to hear some of your opinions or experiences on the matter... in the next few days I have to go and try one, it's an instrument from the 50s... I've heard some stories about it but I'd like to understand better. Thanks to anyone who wants to leave their opinion

Why muddy the water before you try. Try it. You like? You buy. It really doesn't matter what we think.

I own a 1952 Mt Vernon 36. It's always been a great horn for me. There's a good chance an early 50's Mt Vernon was made by a master, (Pepi) so assuming it has been well kept, the chances are it will be great.

If you have determined to get a .525 bore, it is worth checking out.
Note that a 36 won't have an F trigger, and will lack changeable leadpipes

OTOH, if you are planning a purely symphonic career, and this is to be your only horn, consider a larger bore instrument.

hornbuilder wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 4:09 pm It's a Mt Vernon Bach 36. There was considerable variation in how the horns played at that time.
No one can tell you how "that" MtV 36 plays, if they haven't played it.
There are great ones. There are less great ones. You are the only one who can decide which this one is for you.

EXACTLY SIR!!!!!!

Just because it says "Mt Vernon" or "New York" doesn't mean it's the holy grail of trombones!!

That said, it might be a great horn, or be able to be refurbed into a great horn.
I always believe Bach made/makes great parts, but just can't assemble them anymore.
So a careful rebuild will most likely create a SWEET playing horn!

I’ve owned 36s and 36bs from pretty much every era of Bach production between the late 1940s and 2006. My favorite, and the one I still own today, is from 1987. Take from that what you will.

RJMason wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2025 11:45 pm I’ve owned 36s and 36bs from pretty much every era of Bach production between the late 1940s and 2006. My favorite, and the one I still own today, is from 1987. Take from that what you will.

Yeah the '80's production Bach's can be real sleepers. One of the best playing stock 42B's I ever owned was from the early '80's, and was half the price of a Corp. period horn.

My dreams are still haunted by a Corporation Bach 36B that I didn't buy. Up there with the 2B silversonic I didn't buy. Yes, a Mt Vernon Bach can be magical, but so can other Bachs.

Further context.
I owned a 1963 Mt Vernon 50B for a short while. It's nickname was "socks", because it played, and sounded like there was a pair of socks stuffed inside it. There was nothing physically wrong with it, I checked!
There was another MtV 50B in Sydney then, too. Infact it had the consecutive serial number. That horn was fantastic!!