Page 1 of 1

Upper register correct(?) positions

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:12 pm
by 8thPosition
Working on my upper register and I'm having a lot of success, except that I'm running into notes now that are above any of the ones on the typical slide position charts. Everything I find stops at high Bb. I can play C, D and sometimes higher by lipping things up in first position, but I'd like to know that I'm working on the correct pitches and positions. I know, I know, "go take lessons..." If you want to send me your extra time and money I'll gladly take lessons. But for now as a returning player I'd appreciate any advice!

Re: Upper register correct(?) positions

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:27 pm
by BGuttman
B natural in 2nd and C in 1st
B natural in 4th, C in 3rd, C# in 2nd, and D in 1st
Eb in 3rd, E in 2nd, and F in 1st.

I believe there is a partial that has Eb in 1st as well.

Re: Upper register correct(?) positions

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 5:38 pm
by Bach5G
Trombone Slide Position Chart – Bewley Music Studio


https://goo.gl/images/G83fYr

Go for it.

Re: Upper register correct(?) positions

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 5:56 pm
by King2bPlus
E in sharp 4, F in sharp 3, F# in sharp 2

Re: Upper register correct(?) positions

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:03 pm
by TriJim
Try playing high register with a tuner. Most can confirm you have the expected note and help you 'fine tune' the slide position for your horn. Some will even 'play' the note(s) so you have something to shoot for.

Re: Upper register correct(?) positions

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:10 pm
by harrisonreed
King2bPlus wrote: Sun Dec 23, 2018 5:56 pm E in sharp 4, F in sharp 3, F# in sharp 2
You playing alto trombone?

????

Re: Upper register correct(?) positions

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:12 pm
by Doug Elliott
A lot of those positions depend on the horn. Slight adustments one way or the other.

Re: Upper register correct(?) positions

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:15 pm
by hyperbolica
Intonation for higher notes is often horn specific. High Bb and C can be played in 1st (C might be flat 1st), but D usually cannot. High B is usually flat 2nd/#3rd. Bb can also be played in flat 3rd/#4th. C# is #2nd. Like someone already said, use a tuner to figure out where your horn puts notes.

Re: Upper register correct(?) positions

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 6:15 am
by baileyman
Those notes can be all over the place. Once you can get a good resonant tuning in your mouth and chops for them, it will be pretty obvious which way the notes needs to go on the slide.

Re: Upper register correct(?) positions

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 7:38 am
by Basbasun
King2bPlus wrote: Sun Dec 23, 2018 5:56 pm E in sharp 4, F in sharp 3, F# in sharp 2
That is the 13th partial, very useful when you have the chops for that range.
Also the 11th partial, Db 3 1/2, D 2 21/2, and Eb 1 1/2.

Re: Upper register correct(?) positions

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:06 am
by imsevimse
This is a chart I did, it is from my webbpage brazzmusic. If you would like to visit the page it can be accessed from my signature. The chart is based on the first position is away from the bumper for all notes but the high d and that the 7th position is just before the slide falls of. Somewere at my webbpage a chart can be found that describes the more common register too.

Image

"E in sharp 4, F in sharp 3, F# in sharp 2"
I can see I think of the E as a very, very flat 3rd position rather than a raised 4th position, and the same with the F and the F#. It is more how you look at it. Other than this I don't think there is a difference.

/Tom